When you do something and it has no ‘music’ it is incomplete. ©sfk
The following is from a recent round table discussion concerning the above statement.
Scott Lund – If you play music and no one hears it, have you done something?
Hanshi Kaufman – Definitely. The Creative Power of the Universe and the person or entity playing, based on the Spirit of the Thing Itself, conveys the passion back and forth from the source of original emanation.
Jason Hopkins – What gives the universe its creative power?
SL – Maybe the universe IS creation, and it’s a gift that keeps on giving.
HK – IT is its own function and IT existed before existence; however, I would like to avoid a religious or philosophical argument.
JH – Own function? How?
HK – IT exists without your need to accept or deny. IT is not possible to know, even if the infinite resides in the finite.
JH – Then how can we know it?
HK – You ‘know’ it within your own self-consciousness or you don’t, and it is not something that can be coerced or intellectually considered. You might want to read Self-Revealization Acceptance.
SL – I just had an idea. Perhaps the universe we see is not a single entity. We see it one way; a dog with black and white vision sees it another way; a fly with multi-prismatic eyes see it another; A snake has infrared vision, but cannot hear it. Perhaps the universe is a shared hologram conceived by our own minds and it is really a collection of conscious entities creating in concert, and there is no real physical matter at all and no real space. Instead of a galaxy of stars or particles of an atom, these conscious entities exist together instead. One metaphoric star or electron dies, and another takes its place in a system of non-dimensional balance. One man equals how many maggot brains? I wonder…
HK – Everything originates from one source, and the variations of creatures are specific with that particular intent, So, in the final analysis, as far as rationality or logic presumes itself to be, there is no difference between any of the species. I would suggest that this is inclusive of all universes and dimensions. There has to be an origination regardless of individual perspective of any creature and, therefore, all in conjunction with its own survival dependent upon that unique consciousness, including inanimate substance.
JH – I find it strange to impart personality to the universe. Does the universe make choices to do one thing over another?
SL – You are assuming there IS a universe. Maybe there is consciousness instead.
HK – You are playing with words. What would consciousness consist of then? And, where would it reside (for lack of a better word)?
JH – Except we all have similar experience of the place we reside. The degrees to which we can perceive the workings vary from creature to creature but are similar. We can be confident the universe exists. There must be a space to ‘be.’
SL – Good questions. But, I doubt that a housefly has much ego or is trying to impart his personality onto the universe.
HK – As for as imparting personality to IT, I suggest that IT’s personality is extant in you as its own emanation for its own causation for whatever reason. Again, it is an around and around discussion. The limitation of the intellect is what drives the conversation to extremes on all levels, and it is good that this happens, as it permits the mind to expand on its own platform regardless of any supposed religious input.
SL – How can anything physical come out of nothing? Perhaps it never did.
JH – Physical existence requires time, space, and matter—when ‘where’ and ‘what’ are necessary. It’s not “nothing.” Logic dictates that. If it never did, who is pondering the question?
SL – There is nothing really physical on a quantum level, but that is beside the point. We presume that existence has to be physical. If so, you can forget all about the notion of an immortal soul.
HK – Other creatures are also an aspect of creative expression, though we may not understand its reason for being, at least in a finite scenario. The fundamental question is based on an answer that requires acceptance or ex nihilo, or else play the Zen game of ‘we are all illusion’ and, therefore, consciousness does not exist, which is something many people would never accept. I may subscribe to a reality that is ‘divine,’ but I am also cognizant of the fact that I am a physical ‘thing.’ I determine to live my life by my Divine and Earthly right to live in joy and freedom and not let myself become embroiled in intellectual madness, which presuppose I can ever find out the so-called truth, certainly not while I am constrained by physicality on THIS plane.
SL – So true. The prison of physicality constrains the lofty mind.
HK – Okay guys, enough for today. I think it good to share it universally and see the responses. A pleasure, gentlemen.
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